[FRPythoneers] Python for Smalltalkers
pwos at attbi.com
Wed Aug 14 09:05:41 MDT 2002
Thanks, Mat, Chris, for the info. From the Smalltalk frying pan into the
Python fire it is!
In Smalltalk we have a semiannual Camp Smalltalk in which a gang meets
to practice extreme programming for the Opensource cause in an offsite
setting. This year's Spring one was in Colorado Springs; the one in Fall
is in France http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/CampSmalltalk/CS5 .
Anything like Camp Python I should know about?
Matt Boersma wrote:
>On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Wostenberg wrote:
>>It's difficult to draw a living in Smalltalk here in Denver so I was
>>wondering how's the Python market? What types of places use Python? I
>>picture governments and nonprofits going for the opensource way but
>>maybe am wrong.
>As one example, we have 5 full-time developers here at Array BioPharma
>doing python development for internal chemoinformatics tools, with only
>the occasional interruption to patch up legacy Java or VB code. We're a
>for-profit biotech company (see yesterday's Boulder Daily Camera business
>section for a flattering article). We chose python because we wanted to
>narrow the set of languages and technologies we work with, and after an
>internal "language shootout," python won easily based mainly on its
>So there are at least some people around here getting paid to do python.
>(I wish I could say we were hiring right now, sorry...) I got to attend
>O'Reilly's Open Source Conference two weeks ago and meet Guido, and it was
>clear that python is quite strong and growing nationally, and even more
>so in Europe.
>But it's still a niche technology on recruiters' radar, so I wonder if
>there are actually a few more jobs in the area that involve python but
>don't explicitly say so, either because they assume no one will bite, or
>because the recruiter or HR folk don't know what it is. And when we were
>filling positions, we didn't bother screening for python skills because we
>felt any moderately experienced developer (especially a Smalltalker) could
>pretty much learn it and start writing code in a day or so.
>The python jobs I've seen listed around here in recent memory were
>something at NCAR a year back, and Yellow Dog Linux wanted a contractor to
>write installers in python. Denver.techies.com doesn't show any hits for
>"python" right now. :-(
>Just one data point,
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