[OCF] ocf-shellfuncs standardization - Comments? Objections?

[Nick Stoughton]

On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 11:49, Ragnar Kjørstad wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 08:56:32AM -0700, Nick Stoughton wrote:
> > > > Well...that's overstating it more than a bit! The LSB definitely defines
> > > > what things should do, and the 3.0 versions of the init script logging
> > > > functions state that these functions should print a suitable message
> > > > (doesn't say where though!)
> > > 
> > > Then that's not very useful is it?  I stand by my description - (even 
> > > though it had a bit of hyperbole in it).
> > > 
> > Thanks! See http://bugs.linuxbase.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1043 for the
> > proposed corrective action here!
> 
> First, I don't understand _why_ the standard should specify this. Any
> reason it could not be up to the implementations?
> 
Why? Because it is unspecified to the point of uselessness!

> Second, if the standard specified how the logging functions should be
> implemented, it would no longer be possible with alternative
> implementations for e.g. sending the messages to the X console.
> 
> So I think this proposed change is a step in the wrong direction.
> 

I'm quite open to alternative suggestions. But I would have thought that
logging the message to the standard output was the best thing for your
purposes ... this allows you to redirect it easily (including via use of
constructs such as "exec > foo" to redirect all following output to a
specified file) so that an RM can keep track (including redirecting all
stdout to a Unix domain socket, or to the X console, for example).

> I guess, allthough many people here may have an interest, it is getting
> out of the scope of OCF. Are there any LSB specific mailinglists that
> one should subscribe to to keep track of things like this? Or is
> bugzilla the recommended communication medium?
For this, bugzilla is the best place ... 
However, there are also several mailing lists where LSB matters are
discussed, including lsb-wg and lsb-discuss. See
http://www.linuxbase.org/modules.php?name=Content2&pa=showpage&pid=27
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Nick Stoughton      USENIX/FSG Standards Liaison
nick at usenix.org     (510) 388 1413