[Linux-ha-dev] Re: RFC: Roadmap for 2.2.0

[Andrew Beekhof]

On Feb 4, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Tadashiro Yoshida wrote:

> I understand Andrew will release Pacemaker, and Alan will release  
> Heartbeat, individually.
>
> Now we are standing on a starting point of this discussion ;-)
>
> Someone should testify the combination of these packages in the same  
> way as  Heartbeat+CRM used to be done. I think volunteer testers in  
> the community had better to do it as well as Andrew does it. If so,  
> we should share the set of combination of these packages for testing.
>
> Pacemaker project gathers volunteers to test Heartbeat+Pacemaker.  
> Heartbeat project gathers volunteers too. Therefore, two groups for  
> testing are needed.
>
> That is what I wanted say, power of the community will be divided.

The community is not divided because there is no functional overlap  
between the projects - Heartbeat and Pacemaker do different things.
To make an analogy, one would not claim that the existence of X11  
fragments the KDE community.

And you're completely forgetting the about the OpenAIS community that  
can now work with us too - if anything the power of the community is  
_multiplied_.
Seriously, SUSE and Red Hat are finally working together on a common  
cluster infrastructure and you're worried about fragmentation??

> Is it correct?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tadashiro Yoshida
>
>
>
> At Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:34:17 +0100, lmb at suse.de wrote in <20080204113417.GV7686 at marowsky-bree.de 
> >:
> --------------------
>> On 2008-02-04T14:23:14, Tadashiro Yoshida <yoshida.tadashiro at oss.ntt.co.jp 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I am confused completely. I have thought integrated product of
>>> Heartbeat and PaceMaker will be tested and released in the SUSE's
>>> Build Service.
>>
>> We will build packages of both heartbeat and PaceMaker, yes.
>>
>> And, of course, we will test the combination of these packages - as  
>> well
>> as openAIS + Pacemaker. (Testing a cluster resource manager without a
>> cluster to run on would be very hard.)
>>
>>> Do you mean PaceMaker only will be released, although SUSE will test
>>> it with Heartbeat module in the Building Service?
>>
>> I am not sure what you mean here. Andrew will release Pacemaker, Alan
>> will release heartbeat.
>>
>> Of course I expect that everyone will test the combination with the
>> other components before releasing their respective module.
>>
>>> And Alan will integrate Heartbeat and PaceMaker, and release the
>>> integrated package, or integration should be done by users???
>>
>> What do you mean by "integration"? Users will install the base  
>> cluster
>> package (openAIS or heartbeat) and Pacemaker.
>>
>> I think you are making this much too complicated. In a nutshell: two
>> packages will be installed where there formerly was just one. That's
>> all.
>>
>> Does that help?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>    Lars
>>
>> -- 
>> Teamlead Kernel, SuSE Labs, Research and Development
>> SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nnberg)
>> "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes." -- Oscar  
>> Wilde
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